Refugee - Family abroad

harryc · Post by **harryc** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:58 pm

I've heard that non-Finns, non-EU people that have been accepted to Finland as refugees - can apply for and get considerable 'social help' for family members still living in non-EU countries. At the same time this is not possible for a similat person in the UK.

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Honest · Post by **Honest** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:43 pm

I doubt that it's true. Sounds more like propaganda from the likes of P.S.

Beep_Boop · Post by **Beep_Boop** » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:43 pm

I've actually heard the same from some of my, umm.. let's say not so bright, friends. It's not true. And no, I don't think it's PS propaganda, it's just stuff that stupid people talk about it.

There will always be that kind of topics. In the last 3-4 years, I've heard at least 10 of those things and they seem to be widely believed, like the "Islamic no-go zones" in Paris or the "Network of 15000 immigrants in Helsinki who collect benefits and put the cash together and circulate it to smuggle drugs and prostitutes into Finland".
Those are always funny because some version of them sound really plausible, but they're just the product of somebody's imagination.

Just be smart and don't follow the idiocy trail.

rinso · Post by **rinso** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:41 am

harryc wrote:non-EU people that have been accepted to Finland as refugees - can apply for ... considerable 'social help' for family members still living in non-EU countries.

This part is true. They can apply.
Will they get it?

The most probable result will be that their refugee status comes under scrutiny.

harryc · Post by **harryc** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:04 am

I did hear all this from a rather reliable source --

and did hear this too:

The most probable result will be that their refugee status comes under scrutiny.

But heard that there is not much scrutiny going on in Finland - and basically none in Sweden --the Netherlands, Denmark and UK are doing much more investigating.

007 · Post by **007** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:24 am

Its election time. Lots of hearsays, rumors, propagandas, false flags..... Last time keskusta became a victim of it when a proposal was put forward to take III beers away from shops and into alko. It sort of spread out in a way that keskusta wants to sell beers only at alko, whick took away a chunk of support out of keskusta

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:59 pm

harryc wrote:I've heard that non-Finns, non-EU people that have been accepted to Finland as refugees - can apply for and get considerable 'social help' for family members still living in non-EU countries. At the same time this is not possible for a similat person in the UK?

It is not grounds for getting social support (Well, should not be. Without clear proof, I assume it is not been accepted as one i any town). If one is thrifty with the social support one gets, one can of course save some of it and send it abroad (this is documented well enough). 100 euros (as en example) is pretty big money in some parts of the world.

(I do not know UK system)

Last time keskusta became a victim of it when a proposal was put forward to take III beers away from shops and into alko. It sort of spread out in a way that keskusta wants to sell beers only at alko

Both Keskusta's proposal and the public discussion were of the "keskiolut". Keskusta only became victim of their own proposal being made more public.

FinnGuyHelsinki · Post by **FinnGuyHelsinki** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:42 pm

I happen to know - by proxy - some of the people that handle the cases, and I'm sorry to say that even though their intentions are good, some are way too gentle-hearted and thus prone to be influenced by sob stories. Similarly as much I myself would suck at working e.g. in a kindergarten, others due to their (literally submissive) nature are not qualified to work in positions in which they have the power to give money to people they meet in person.

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:58 pm

Honest wrote: Sounds more like propaganda from the likes of P.S.

Source your statement, otherwise it is worthless and nothing short of propaganda in itself.

harryc · Post by **harryc** » Sun Mar 01, 2015 10:45 pm

Honest wrote:
Sounds more like propaganda from the likes of P.S.

Source your statement, otherwise it is worthless and nothing short of propaganda in itself.

Agree - PS has some stuff along those lines - but as far as that goes so do the entire governments of Denmark, the Netherkads and the UK.

I looked some stuff up now on EU-Lex - and it certainly seems migrants already domiciled in the EU can do a lot to try to get other members into the EU - it also seems that the EU directive says that persecuted refugees should have even higher priority. I didn't see anything about sending 'social support' to outside the EU.

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