Why Pensions are double taxed?

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Re: Why Pensions are double taxed?

Post by Beep_Boop » Tue May 10, 2016 10:42 am

AFAIK, your calxulations and assumption aren't correct. The pension contribution is deducted from the gross (brutto/pre-tax) salary.


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Re: Why Pensions are double taxed?

Post by Upphew » Tue May 10, 2016 11:40 am

roger_roger wrote:Shouldn't the pension and unemployment contribution be deducted from the gross income before calculating the income tax, like?
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Re: Why Pensions are double taxed?

Post by wolf80 » Tue May 10, 2016 2:11 pm

roger_roger wrote:I thought the same until I checked my payslip closely today. Can you check yours and do some calculations yourself?
Either you can't properly read your payslip, or your employer is cheating you out of your money. All of my payslips take the pension contribution out of the taxable income.

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Re: Why Pensions are double taxed?

Post by Upphew » Tue May 10, 2016 3:21 pm

roger_roger wrote:
Beep_Boop wrote:AFAIK, your calxulations and assumption aren't correct. The pension contribution is deducted from the gross (brutto/pre-tax) salary.
I thought the same until I checked my payslip closely today. Can you check yours and do some calculations yourself?
The pension insurance and withholding tax are both calculated from brutto. Thus it seems you pay taxes on your pension insurance. But you don't pay taxes according to payslip. You pay them according to pre-completed tax return. Check your numbers from that.
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Re: Why Pensions are double taxed?

Post by Rip » Tue May 10, 2016 5:49 pm

"Työeläkemaksut" is probably the largest automatic deduction for most employed persons. Yes, the tax percentage on pay slip is applied to the gross, pre(employee)-pension payment sum, but the percentage itself is calculated by route where pension payments are deducted from the estimated gross salary. Also the final taxes are calculated by this way.

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Re: Why Pensions are double taxed?

Post by Beep_Boop » Tue May 10, 2016 6:26 pm

I've just checked the yearly big-a** paper from Vero. To me it seems pretty clear that the pension contributions are deducted from the pre-tax amount.
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