Getting a moroccan into Finland?

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Post by chriscross » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:21 pm

sorry, it's just me wrote:So, now that I've talked with him he doesn't seem very excited about coming to Finland. But now he says if I want to stay in Morocco we can.
So it's kind of an open matter now. He still wants to marry me...

have you met him in the flesh?



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Post by JaDLB » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:15 pm

I have seen bitter people but not as anybody like Hank and others on this forum.

I have been reading this forum for 3 month now since i moved to finland and i have no clue why the heck you think it is that better . i measn this is not heaven and not easy to live in but give a chance damn it for love.

I come from lebanon , a land wich is quiet unstable now but heck nothing is better then my own home , my familly , my heritage , myland but finland is my second home and i have loyalty to it and want to contribute in it as much as any finnish guy or girl do plus i love my wife like hell. DO NOT JUDGE ALL MIDDLE EASTERN MEN like if they are all the same.

but i wonder what are u people showing to the public about finland , some people come here not becoz they want to be EU citizen or need ur advices about how middle eastern men will treat them , they are here for answers.

why are u so sick ,what makes u better then them ??? just let me know .

isn't there human rights in finland and the right to exist ??? to have a descent life , it's not fair the image u people give abt finland . you all are against foreigners , look whom is driving ur bus and cleaning ur streets , how many finns sit ina bar getting drunk while other foreigners are cleaning roads or driving busses.

we have to be fair i guess , when people google finland they see this forum , then hank's comments about summer men and winter men and waw so lovely . maybe we should make this site the public website of the ministry of tourism in finland .

i think u are giving quiet a bad image . if the finnish people do not want foreigners then let it be , but i am in finland want it or not , i love my wife , and i will look for a job , pay the @#$% taxes and get a life here and maybe move home or maybe stay for ever. i have the right to choose.

quit beiong arrogant and scary to people . show statistics but don't show damn stupid notices and comments against all foreigners. some people i met here have great buisnesses and are all cont6ributing to the system and love finland .

finns are not bad like u are showing them , UVI is not hell and Finnish people are not naive like u think people .

give others a chance , please . finland is big it fits evrybody . just quit the racist comments abt evry freakin question asked here.

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Post by Hank W. » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:52 pm

Go say this to áberstan
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He might have enjoyed someone tell him that it won't all be peaches and cream. Or it will be, but the peaches are rotten and the cream is sour.

And if you do not understand what is a "summer man" ask the wife what is a kesäkissa...
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Post by JaDLB » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:02 am

did u get dump by some finnish women , is this why u are so bitter ?

summer man , summer women , it is not ur damn buisness to judge others . there are laws , rules , that the FINNISH PEOPLE have voted on and if these people are legal here then you can not judge them.

do not blame some idiots that see Finland as heaven just becoz HOLLYWOOD makes Europe and the US look like one .

I love finland and i admit it is better then some other countries , it is organised there is a system but it ain't any heaven . life is not easy

am only ashamed that you sit on your ass all day here on this forum bitching evry single person asking a question abt UVI or Immigration. give ita break . they don't all want the damn social benefits , . it's about love maybe, it's about wanting to be with someone . i met people that have been here for 27 years with their wife and they are happy. why shall it be so generalized abt all foreigners. it's not a big WAW to live in -30 without job waiting 6 month for one @#$% paper and be treated like !"#¤% by racist people like u my dear Hank . so if that foreigner comes here and go thru that , i think he deserve being here more then anybody else.
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Post by Karhunkoski » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:28 am

JaDLB wrote:so if that foreigner comes here and go thru that , i think he deserve being here more then anybody else.
I find you comment insulting and discriminatory, none of us "foreigners" have any more right to be here than anyone else!

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Post by interleukin » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:35 am

I agree that this forum sometimes tends to highlight negative aspects of moving to/living in Finland. It is not so strange since people come here when they have problems, but when everything is working out they tend to be happily doing something else.

BUT I would rather read all of Hanks rants and be prepared than to not have a clue about anything and blindly move here out of love. Love is great, and a good reason to move to another country, but it tends to not survive years of unemployment, lack of language skills, and a situation where one partner is like a child for the first years, completely dependent on the spouse to take care of them.

Things MAY work out great, and I am glad you are an example of that, but by preparing (gathering the relevant info about all the necessary bureaucracy, making sure this is what you really want, learning the language, finding or making preparations for a job, etc) you are greatly increasing the chance of things working out.

I am glad Hank is around to scare people into actually doing their homework before doing anything stupid.

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Post by pierrot » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:36 am

JaDLB wrote:am only ashamed that you sit on your ass all day here on this forum bitching evry single person asking a question abt UVI or Immigration. give ita break .
Helpfull posts by hank : around 10.000
Helpfull posts by JaDLB : 0

Enough said...
JaDLB wrote:they don't all want the damn social benefits , . it's about love maybe, it's about wanting to be with someone . i met people that have been here for 27 years with their wife and they are happy. why shall it be so generalized abt all foreigners. it's not a big WAW to live in -30 without job waiting 6 month for one @#$% paper and be treated like !"#¤% by racist people like u my dear Hank . so if that foreigner comes here and go thru that , i think he deserve being here more then anybody else.
First of all, noone FORCES you to be here, or am I wrong?
Secondly, the divorce rates for mixt couples where one of the partners comes from certain countries (in this case Morocco) are indeed higher than average, there are numbers and statistics as you surely have seen by reading this thread (just re-read the post from Awa on page 2).
And finaly, stop calling everyone who doesnt agree with you a racist, makes you look silly.
Here in Finland, I have done everything I can to blend-in with the Finns, I've changed my hair color, wore differnet clothes, got different

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Post by rinso » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:42 am

JaDBl
Don't mistake honest warnings with racism. If you think you came to paradise and then have to wait 6 month in -30 for some paperwork, you'll be p***ed of that nobody told you what to expect. Insulting people because they tell the truth is a very wrong attitude.

And if you read the forum, you'll see that Hank is very helpful to foreigners, here as well as in real life (although he can be sarcastic). So, just like Sudentassu I find your remarks insulting.

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Post by greenhorn » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:10 am

JaDLB wrote:
give ita break . they don't all want the damn social benefits , . it's about love maybe, it's about wanting to be with someone . i met people that
May be all of them are not about love, may be few have something otherwise to do, disguised in love.

Why are you generalising same as you are proscribing others? People don't always know that everything will be good, so they factor in the situations where things go bad as well. People on this board are helping the thread starter just with that.

Good day !

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Post by sinikettu » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:16 am

Hank W. wrote:
And if you do not understand what is a "summer man" ask the wife what is a kesäkissa...
Every summer many Finns migrate to their summer cottage.
As soon as the schools exit in June the kids are off with parents.
The parent often take it in turn..as to who is on holiday..Mum may take first 4 weeks dad coming to mökki just at weekends..(and midsummer) then mum goes back to work while dad takes his 4 weeks.

Now here is where "kesäkissa" appears..

The family cat (in this case not of Morocan birth)..is taken to the cottage for summer.
The kids love kissa...
But it get bored with it's life in the forest and goes off to the nearest farm where it finds lots of nice (sexy) farm cats.
Kids cry.."where is kissa?"
Like many who comment in this thread..Dad has seen situation like this before, so he checks a couple of likely bored kissa sex joints.
Family fetch it back....It goes off again..and again..but gets clever goes off a bit further...not quite to France...but..it is never seen again by it's owners.
Similarity to this story and this thread ..?
People do not become more irritable as they grow old - they simply stop making the effort to avoid annoying others.

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Post by Hank W. » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:54 am

JaDLB wrote: it is not ur damn buisness to judge others
Is it yours?
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