What is with this forum?!!!!!

[Hank W.]

The system makes it impossible to stay

So whats wrong in me saying the system sucks? If it does? How does your salary as a social worker reflect your education? Or the nurses' salaries? Nothing wrong? Yeah, Finland is a paradise on bloody earth.

[mCowboy]

I am really going to take notice of your friends who live in a Trailer park.

ok, so here's just troll and not to have a decent debate. you don't know sh!t about me and yet still make assumptions. why don't you back to your barn and fukk those sheep that you hold so precious, I'm sure they are accommodating.

you're the reason for this movie title...

[Travmies]

Sadly not, I was a city boy from urban wasteland estate, I kick, bit and fought my way out and pulled the plug as I left.

[Travmies]

Wages are !"#¤%, of course I would get better wages in the UK, but I couldn't have a house in the countryside.

[Travmies]

I am really going to take notice of your friends who live in a Trailer park.

ok, so here's just troll and not to have a decent debate. you don't know sh!t about me and yet still make assumptions. why don't you back to your barn and fukk those sheep that you hold so precious, I'm sure they are accommodating.

you're the reason for this movie title...

There is no debate here, you have a belief or a truth which you stick to like glue, never changing. That is not dialoge or debate, it is just dogma.

[mCowboy]

There is no debate here, you have a belief or a truth which you stick to like glue, never changing. That is not dialoge or debate, it is just dogma.

which is that everyone has a right to know what they're up against. Not everyone wants to move to buttfukkylä and raise sheep, even if some city boy from the UK has managed to do that.

Some might actually live among civilization in a city with electricity and running water and make decent money (in Finnish scale), but they need to know the facts.

No wonder they kicked you out of the UK, you can't even spell English...

priseless, dialoge.... strokes your ego when for once you speak better English than the people around you (who only studied it since they were 9).

[raamv]

What is this with F*Ckin newbie Foreigners...
Most of them tend to think that once they made it here..its like everyone else can make it too.. or that they are too f*CKIN smart...
Some of us dont have choices like you travmies...Good that you made it..But not everyone gets to do it that way..
so dont insult that hand that feeds..
and just bcos you jump ship..dont mean others need to do it..
and before you start calling people wotever sheep
F*KIN idiots dont understand that there are some of us here who are pretty influential and can help these idiotic *ckers until they start thinkin with their a*rses..
This country is soo small that these stupid idiotic F*ckers dont realize that they have to run into people who knows people who have blacklisted them...
Seems like they want to wear their rose f*ckin colored glasses..even when lookin into a glass of red wine..

[Mook]

Oh but they should *think positive*

So how come it's mostly the Finns telling all the negative things that might happen given that they haven't actually experienced it. Where are all these poor depressed foreigners telling people not to come?

It's funny, but I know a fair few people who have lived and worked here for many years and most of them still can't string together a conversation in Finnish. The ones that do speak are those that have had to in order to get a job. Those that didn't manage either of these two routes left, so WTF is the problem?

I'm less tired of your clueless barstads then I am of the effing -ve Finns who, no matter how many foreign friends they have, won't ever understand what it's like.

[enk]

I'm less tired of your clueless barstads then I am of the effing -ve Finns who, no matter how many foreign friends they have, won't ever understand what it's like.

So please, feel free to babysit their intro into Finnish life. You don't
seem to answer many questions that they have though. Why not?

-enk

[raamv]

I'm less tired of your clueless barstads then I am of the effing -ve Finns who, no matter how many foreign friends they have, won't ever understand what it's like.

So Why the fu*ck blame them for not trying to make you understand the existing culture here...

[enk]

No Trav, jokos osaat suomea? Ja onneksi olkoon, olet
suomalaistunut niin paljon, että olet jo vihainen perusnegatiivinen.
Sehän on mahtava saavutus!

Avioliiton pituudella ei ole mitään tekemistä asian kanssa,
esim. olin naimisissa 13 vuotta. Mikä tahansa liitto voi mennä
päin mäntyä milloin tahansa. Hyvä kuitenkin, kun omasi ei ole
mennytkään.

Ja muista, että samalla kun huudat tuossa, ettemme tiedä sinusta
mitään, et tiedä paskankaan vertaa meistä, vaikka tykkäät
olettaa tietäväsi.

mCowboy: soh soh, muista, että ei kukaan meistä tiedä niin paljon.
Nuo meidän ystävämme, jotka jäävät maahan ovat mielikuvituksellisia,
kun tuo toinen ei tunne ketään, joka on jäänyt maahan eron jälkeen.
Olen myös mielikuvituksellinen olento, en ole Suomessa, en jäänyt
Suomeen lasteni takia, mutta hei, helposti voidaan kuitata koko jutun
toteamalla, että niiih, toi on nainen.

-enk

[Mook]

I'm less tired of your clueless barstads then I am of the effing -ve Finns who, no matter how many foreign friends they have, won't ever understand what it's like.

So please, feel free to babysit their intro into Finnish life. You don't
seem to answer many questions that they have though. Why not?

-enk

One voice in the sh1tstorm of negativity? Saying the same thing over and over? Na. don't have the time mate. I might answer the odd obscure question that's never been asked, but as for the common ones - the muppets can use the search. Indeed, somone with half a brain once wrote it all done on a couple of pages of A4 - there's not that much essential stuff

Besides, who would want babysat as they embarked on a grand new adventure? Life would be particularly bland and boring if one didn't make mistakes. Sure, some pointers are good now-and-then, but not all the time. This place (and its predecessor) didn't exist when I came here, sure they might have helped me save some time, but there are other ways to work things out.

[Mook]

I'm less tired of your clueless barstads then I am of the effing -ve Finns who, no matter how many foreign friends they have, won't ever understand what it's like.

So Why the fu*ck blame them for not trying to make you understand the existing culture here...

eh? blaming?

The main thing is that it's effing tedious..

[enk]

One voice in the sh1tstorm of negativity? Saying the same thing over and over? Na. don't have the time mate. I might answer the odd obscure question that's never been asked, but as for the common ones - the muppets can use the search. Indeed, somone with half a brain once wrote it all done on a couple of pages of A4 - there's not that much essential stuff

Besides, who would want babysat as they embarked on a grand new adventure? Life would be particularly bland and boring if one didn't make mistakes. Sure, some pointers are good now-and-then, but not all the time. This place (and its predecessor) didn't exist when I came here, sure they might have helped me save some time, but there are other ways to work things out.

Well that's the whole damn point of the whole convo. The muppets can't
be arsed to do it themselves and then get upset when someone tells
them that life isn't all KELA standing on the street corner handing
out money and just cuz they're native English speakers doesn't mean
they're gonna get a job.

As my mom said when I was little: if you're not going to do something
about it, don't criticize the way someone else is going about

-enk

[raamv]

eh? blaming?
The main thing is that it's effing tedious..

So u wanna come to Finland and blame the Finns for being negative no matter what percentage they represent...
Thats F*cking ridiculous considering that *you* ( and those who dont make an effort to understand the culture) are the F*ckin foreigner trying to fit in here and not the Finns welcoming anyone with open arms...not that they wouldn't do..but then..ther eis a limit..
If you move to Sweden you are an alien no matter what unless you start sepakin Swedish Fluently ( what they dont tell you is how fluently but by less than 2 years)
Mook Logic...