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Post by ravs » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:58 pm

I have work experience of adminstration... good in english (not a native speak of course!!) have excellent computer skills!! smart!! but every time i go and look for jobs, finnish language becomes THE problem. Of course, I accept its my weakness so I will to learn it.. but WHERE???

Now.... what i don't understand is that aren't there any jobs that don't require finnish language, say, cleaning work at any offices, shippings, streets... or newspaper delivery or construction??????

anyway..... i know there are some experts making noises in this forum... so guys.. put your heads together and give links, advises, experiences so that i don't need to look here and there for my queries

still i see silver linning and i always will :P



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Post by superiorinferior » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:02 pm

ravs wrote: anyway..... i know there are some experts making noises in this forum... so guys.. put your heads together and give links, advises, experiences so that i don't need to look here and there for my queries
The noises you are about to hear you will not like.

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Post by sammy » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:18 pm

ravs wrote:Now.... what i don't understand is that aren't there any jobs that don't require finnish language, say, cleaning work at any offices, shippings, streets... or newspaper delivery or construction??????
You'll find information how and where to find Finnish courses at e.g. this site

http://www.infopankki.fi

The same www-service should also have links regarding job-hunting... yes

http://www.infopankki.fi/en-GB/Work/

As for the availability of jobs without Finnish language skills... check out this positive comment
shrecher wrote:If you are nothing, you don't get any job here.
Nah... I wouldn't agree with shrecher (though perhaps you could PM him on this forum for detailed information on jobs that do not require Finnish/Swedish :wink: ) but yes, just like any job-seeker you probably WILL need to look here and there... finding a job does not usually come to anyone just by snapping one's fingers... and as you have noticed, knowing the local language can be a big help in that regard.

Sorry but I don't have much more tangible than that to offer, but be active and persistent... I mean as regards actually seeking and contacting prospective employers yourself :lol:

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Post by shrecher » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:27 pm

ravs wrote: anyway..... i know there are some experts making noises in this forum... so guys.. put your heads together and give links, advises, experiences so that i don't need to look here and there for my queries
You need the qualification and specialty. Without specialty and valid Finnish certificate in it it is difficult to find any job.

What kind of diploma you have? If no, there are many choices, still. I would suggest the following:

1. Apply for courses at Järvenpää Seurakunto Opisto
http://www.seurakuntaopisto.fi/

they have number of courses and trainings mostly in social arena. I know few people who found job at old people's home after that training. This is very dirty job, but it is a job.

2. Register at MOL and ask them send you for training
Bus driver, construction worker, plumb worker. MOL's officers nicely speak English.

While you are on study you get allowance and accommodation, but very small.

I think, studying is best option for you.

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Post by Karhunkoski » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:47 pm

shrecher wrote: MOL's officers nicely speak English.

I can assure you that up here that isn't necessarily true.
Political correctness is the belief that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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Post by rinso » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:30 pm

or newspaper delivery or construction
That are indeed jobs that are possible without Finnish.
If you are a welder for instance, no problem finding something.
But you need the professional skills and you have to move to the place where the work is.
The delivery jobs are only part time (few hours a day) and they pay lousy.

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Post by blaugrau » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:31 pm

You have to give some more details before anyone can give any sensible advice here, especially
- are you permanently domiciled in Finland?
- Eu-citizen?
- Where do you live in Finland?
- Where and how have you already looked for work (e.g. are you familiar with the mol pages etcetc)
Last edited by blaugrau on Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Post by superiorinferior » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:07 pm

blaugrau wrote: I have to admit that with your attitude of obviously being too lazy to use the search function (or giving more details) in this forum, your chances to find a job will probably be even somewhat lower than usual.
And the zingers begin.

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Post by mCowboy » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:09 pm

and the trolling begins.
Get in there...

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Post by blaugrau » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:10 pm

Yep, that's true. I'll better leave it.

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Post by superiorinferior » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:15 pm

mCowboy wrote:and the trolling begins.
Not exactly trolling, more like watching a(nother) ship (thread) sink into "use the search function!" "Don't move here, because only smart people like me can handle it!" "you haven't answered one basic question? Are you Schengen or not??!!" and on and on.

Don't tell me you've never done this, Pardner, cause it ain't flyin'. You're quite experienced at one liners.

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Post by mCowboy » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:23 pm

superiorinferior wrote:
mCowboy wrote:and the trolling begins.
Not exactly trolling, more like watching a(nother) ship (thread) sink into "use the search function!" "Don't move here, because only smart people like me can handle it!" "you haven't answered one basic question? Are you Schengen or not??!!" and on and on.

Don't tell me you've never done this, Pardner, cause it ain't flyin'. You're quite experienced at one liners.
It's not like you've been giving lenghty supporting explanations to those who ask it, either... more like commenting with those one liners mocking others who are providing the information.
Get in there...

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Post by Hank W. » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:18 pm

superiorinferior wrote: Not exactly trolling, more like watching a(nother) ship (thread) sink into "use the search function!" "Don't move here, because only smart people like me can handle it!" "you haven't answered one basic question? Are you Schengen or not??!!" and on and on..
And your contribution to this thread is exactly what?

I do not cater to idiots this week. They can ask stupid questions from their kind. So you go ahead and answer them properly.
Cheers, Hank W.
sitting here like a lemon looking for a gin.

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thanx experts

Post by ravs » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:10 pm

well........ you guys really made some noises and i tell you some of you were actually singing.... :lol:

thanx anyway.... to all of you


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