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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Liam1 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:49 pm

Granted Adrian, 4 years is a bit extreme, though can understand wanting to know how things work (the question was on the buying choices as much as the absolute costs and these won't change that much) as soon as a decision is made rather than just before arrival!

It's a shame that the track got diverted a bit, I was interested in the original question - whether there were bulk / farmer options that made buying cheaper and on what produce.



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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Pursuivant » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:13 pm

I was interested in the original question - whether there were bulk / farmer options that made buying cheaper and on what produce.
Potatoes, when you buy half a dozen sacks to store in your cold cellar over the winter.
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by riku2 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:35 pm

Liam1 wrote:I was interested in the original question - whether there were bulk / farmer options that made buying cheaper and on what produce.
Probably one thing missed due to lack of knowledge about finland is that a lot of food is there to be gotten for free. The country is full of forests and there are berries and mushrooms growing there and provided you don't pick them from someone's garden or farm then you can pick them for free. People even come to finland from places like thailand to pick them for sale and make a profit (more than enough to cover the airfare).

I doubt any farmers market will offer cheaper prices than that (free). Of course the berries will not last for long as is, so some of the space of the 800,000e house should be set aside for freezers and other methods such as drying, so the OP can live off this free harvest until the next year. They can even sell them to make a bit of profit.

On the other hand some kind of time/expense study might be taken. If you have a reasonable income then why spend time picking berries from the forest when you can spend the same time working and make more than enough to buy your food from the supermarket.

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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:19 pm

You all keep going on and on like I'm some super rich girl.
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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Adrian42 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:31 pm

AnnabelleIeve wrote:You all keep going on and on like I'm some super rich girl. True, I do have expensive tastes, I am spoiled, and my parents both have good jobs, but all of my money that I'm getting to spend on a Finnish home is savings from my father
I am sure everyone in this forum has a dad who has a million Euro in his savings account, so that his little girl can buy a nice house for herself in one of the best parts of town when she will be studying...

AnnabelleIeve wrote:and whatever else I can add to it in these next few years (in other words, if I want something more expensive, I will cover the difference).
I don't know what sources of money a spoiled rich kid like you has.

A normal kid at your age would perhaps earn 10 Euro per hour (less is left after taxes and social security payments), and would never be able to earn enough to make any noticeable contribution to buying a million Euro house.

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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:47 pm

Adrian42 wrote: I don't know what sources of money a spoiled rich kid like you has.

A normal kid at your age would perhaps earn 10 Euro per hour (less is left after taxes and social security payments), and would never be able to earn enough to make any noticeable contribution to buying a million Euro house.
Haha. Don't worry about me.
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Re: I don't know.

Post by Jukka Aho » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:44 pm

I agree it’s never wise to dispense information about one’s personal wealth (or family money) in a way that could be interpreted as being — somewhat casually — out of touch, or indifferent towards the financial reality of the “common people”. That is, most of us.

Which probably means a question about penny-pinching on groceries may appear a bit random against the plans of just up and buying a house in cash... in a location where the property prices are probably among the highest in the entire country, no less.

Then there are of course all kinds of priorities and pesky details to be sorted out in case one is actually going to move into a foreign country and make it a success for themselves.

But all that aside, some of these replies reek of a strange sort of thinly veiled bitterness. Interesting. Please, do carry on! I want to see what people will reveal about themselves along the way. :D
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Re: I don't know.

Post by Liam1 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:34 am

Cory wrote:
Jukka Aho wrote:But all that aside, some of these replies reek of a strange sort of thinly veiled bitterness. Interesting. Please, do carry on! I want to see what people will reveal about themselves along the way. :D
:thumbsup: Yeah, it is interesting to read some of these posts. Have to remember that not everything we read may be the truth, though.
Cory you beat me to the :thumbsup: ! Agree 100% with Jukka

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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:07 pm

AnnabelleIeve wrote:You all keep going on and on like I'm some super rich girl.
in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

I'm 43, yes I have a house and a flat soon getting foreclosed, price in the 100K range, my newest car was a 1986, I have a bachelors degree and make a fairly decent 3K before taxes - if I am employed... my luck might change, but when I was 20 I was dreaming of my dad getting a new car so he would pass his old one down to me, not buying me a 400K apartment.... well, my sister passed her car down so I was happy - but thats just me.
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Re: I don't know.

Post by riku2 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:35 pm

to the OP - it's bad form to change both the title and the whole content of the original message so that now the rest of the thread doesn't follow on from your original question (related to the price of groceries).

This might be a lesson to you also that Finland isn't the acquisitive place that the USA is and that "modesty" is somewhat useful to avoid putting the local's noses out of joint (especially) if you have more money than they do, even more so if you didn't get it through your own hard work (something they can find out easily since all tax returns are public domain and anyone's taxable income can be looked up with an SMS and 30 seconds later you know their income).

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Re: I don't know.

Post by ritan7471 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:39 pm

Riku, how do you check that by SMS? I've heard people talking about it before, but I don't know how to do it.

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Re: Shopping in chain stores or buy local produce?

Post by onkko » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:26 pm

Pursuivant wrote:
AnnabelleIeve wrote: Interesting bit of information. :?
Well you should know as Munkkiniemi was named after the monks who had fishing rights in it during the middle ages... well, it was the flow of Vantaa at the time, but the land rose and it silted so it kinda rotted up...
Wasnt it about real munkkis, like ones "deep fried and sugar coated". Im shocked!
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Re: I don't know.

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:05 pm

riku2 wrote:to the OP - it's bad form to change both the title and the whole content of the original message so that now the rest of the thread doesn't follow on from your original question (related to the price of groceries).

This might be a lesson to you also that Finland isn't the acquisitive place that the USA is and that "modesty" is somewhat useful to avoid putting the local's noses out of joint (especially) if you have more money than they do, even more so if you didn't get it through your own hard work (something they can find out easily since all tax returns are public domain and anyone's taxable income can be looked up with an SMS and 30 seconds later you know their income).

Sorry about the change in title. I just wanted to let hopeful readers know that this thread veered completely off-topic and that this isn't the place they will find the information they were hoping to find. Just seemed misleading. I don't know. :ohno:

And I was hoping when I asked my questions on this forum that I wouldn't be questioned and people would just answer as best they could. I'm certainly not making the mistake of disclosing my budget again on this forum. But, when someone asks for the prices of homes in an expensive neighborhood, the only responses you get are "No way you can afford to live there" and it frustrates me that they won't assume that since I'm asking seriously about prices, I am financially capable of purchasing an expensive home... Well. Cat's out of the bag now. People know that I'm in a financially good position but I am in no way rich in the way like I think other's assume. Like I said before, I live in the suburbs, not a mansion. I don't generally ask for much from my parents but they are kind enough to spend a lot of money on a home overseas so that I can attend college comfortably. Don't think also that I'm getting this all without doing any work. There are things I have to do, like getting good marks in my courses. If I can get accepted into a Finnish college, I can have the cost of my home covered. Which now I'm a little torn on. I think I want an apartment in Munkkiniemi and a home maybe in Espoo or Vantaa... I could just get an apartment and buy a home myself...

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Re: I don't know.

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:10 pm

AnnabelleIeve wrote: I just wanted to let hopeful readers know that this thread veered completely off-topic
Well thats the salt of the forum. You find topics 100's of pages long that started with something totally different and evolve into.. whatever they evolve to. You just chlorinated a new lifeform ! :evil:
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Re: I don't know.

Post by AnnabelleIeve » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:16 pm

Pursuivant wrote:
AnnabelleIeve wrote: I just wanted to let hopeful readers know that this thread veered completely off-topic
Well thats the salt of the forum. You find topics 100's of pages long that started with something totally different and evolve into.. whatever they evolve to. You just chlorinated a new lifeform ! :evil:
Sorry~!
But this thread has nearly no responses to the original topic that are of use.
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