Right of residency - Finland address

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onkko
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Re: Right of residency - Finland address

Post by onkko » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:24 am

betelgeuse wrote:
onkko wrote: And you dont register yourself by police, you register in "magistrade" what takes care of population registry and police has nothing to do with that.
Except these days the request to get to the population registry can be given to the police when registering the right of residence or applying for a residence permit:

http://www.vrk.fi/default.aspx?id=179

"Rekisteröintipyynnön voi 1.12.2014 alkaen jättää myös Suomen ulkomaan edustustoon, Maahanmuuttovirastoon tai poliisille oleskelulupaa, oleskelukorttia tai EU-kansalaisen oleskeluoikeuden rekisteröintiä koskevan hakemuksen yhteydessä."
I learned.
But what kind of idiotic way that is. We already have one working way but no, lets make more....
Goddammit!


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Re: Right of residency - Finland address

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:59 am

Saves from running to different offices. I was surpised you could go to any town (and not where you were resident) to get a new ID card. And tax office also.
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Re: Right of residency - Finland address

Post by Drifting-Cloud » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:39 pm

onkko wrote:As said i thought you have bee here longer.
And you dont register yourself by police, you register in "magistrade" what takes care of population registry and police has nothing to do with that.
Police may, and apparently want, to know more info but i wont see how registered address isnt enough. Whole law is based on trust anyway. Did you register your address?
Ask your GF to write "yep he lives here, regards GF".
I see now, thank you. I'm no stranger to pointless bureaucracy, it's exactly the same in the UK and I hear it's even worse in the US.
Also, I'm female and my fiance is a dude. :lol:
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Re: Right of residency - Finland address

Post by Pursuivant » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:24 pm

This is for workers, but "family" works more or less the same way...

"The brief version:
EU person gets first a work contract from the job. Written.
(If boss says no, needs a number first - tell boss to call the maistraatti and ask themselves
what does the person need to get a number)

With the contract goes to the maistraatti and says: My job, no number, need registration.
Maistraatti gives a number on a paper saying "temporarily registered alien".
With two papers alien jumps in the ufo and flies to the tax office: verotoimisto ***
Says: my number, my salary, need tax card.
Gets tax card.
Goes to bank - says my number, my address, my job, gets bank account.
Gives tax card and personal number and bank account number to employer;
Works.
First salary comes to account, bank statement comes to home.
Takes work contract, magistrate paper, bank statement, rent contract... chorus: "all the papers":
Goes to Police station with 40€. Says: I want EU registration. Gets EU registration paper.
Goes to Maistraatti, with... chorus "all the papers" : says: I am now EU registered, I want to be
in the computer as permanantly domiciled. Gets a paper....
Goes to KELA, with... chorus *all the papers* ,says Want KELA card, gets a lot of grief...

Welcome to Finland. You have now all the papers

*** reportedly, it is these days you just need to go to the tax office to get this first round done;
but the papers take a few days to process...

Remember: right papers, right order, right offices. Otherwise they say "piss off"..."
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And...... ALL THE PAPERS!
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Re: Right of residency - Finland address

Post by Drifting-Cloud » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:44 pm

Hi, me again.
I went to the registration office (Am I the only one who finds it slightly strange that a government department was above a H&M?) and got the Notification of Change of Address form, but they're not sure if it will be valid because of the problem I mentioned in the OP that I can't get my name on the tenancy agreement. Although I haven't yet seen anything on the form that says I need to attach a tenancy agreement or proof of address. So I'm not sure how concerned I should be...
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