Electricity microgeneration/ Finnish import and Export.

aguinness · Post by **aguinness** » Thu Oct 30, 2014 12:19 am

Long story short, I am looking at returning myself to Finland and need to be financially stable before doing that. I have the ability to buy Solar pv panels and all associated equipment at much lower prices than they are available in Finland. Who knows anything about the sale of solar pv equipment in Finland and does anyone have pointers in exporting to Finland from another EU Country in which I have an established business, Also have Finnish residence permit, bank account, phone number etc. Thanks in advance.

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cors187 · Post by **cors187** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:29 pm

Your looking for an associate to setup sales and storage before your return?

Rosamunda · Post by **Rosamunda** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:29 am

If I wanted to buy a solar panel and found them available in another EU country cheaper than Finland, I would do what I always do: order it myself. What would be your added value as the middle man?

Apart from that, there is nothing to stop you exporting solar panels to Finland and selling them here. It's up to you whether you set up a subsidiary of your business in Finland or not. If you do, then it would be a B2B export (so no cross-border VAT). If you don't have a business here and you do direct sales to private individuals (ie not businesses) then you would have to charge VAT.

aguinness · Post by **aguinness** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:22 pm

Cors, no I am not looking for an associate to setup sales and storage, As I have enough connections to facilitate what I want to do, and Rosamunda, that´s the key, whilst you could buy them in another EU country cheaper than in Finland you won´t be able to buy them cheaper than I should be able to supply them due to agreements I have in place with the manufacturers of the equipment. In a nutshell I believe I can sell them in Finland cheaper than a Finnish supplier can even buy them. I plan to sell to installers (business)rather than to the public so I believe there should be no cross border vat between me and my customer.

Rosamunda · Post by **Rosamunda** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:39 pm

It is the final customer who decides whether or not the price is right (including VAT) and if there are too many intermediaries between the manufacturer and the consumer, then it's unlikely your panels would be any cheaper than anyone else's. You buy from the manufacturer and take your profit, then you sell to the fitter who is also going to take a profit: at the end of the day it's unlikely the final customer will get them cheaper. Besides, if I were in the business of selling & fitting solar panels I would probably want to buy direct from the manufacturer - it's quicker (delivery, paperwork, payment), easier (warranty, returns etc), less risky and, long term, has got to be cheaper. As a middle man you would be the one taking cash flow and even forex risks too.

Anyway, what are you waiting for? Sunshine?

aguinness · Post by **aguinness** » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:55 pm

Website is now up and running @http://solpower.fi/index.php/en/ Some changes, improvements and additions to be made BUT we are open for business and the Facebook page is available herehttps://www.facebook.com/solpower.fi?re ... page_panel

Tiwaz · Post by **Tiwaz** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:52 am

aguinness wrote:Website is now up and running @http://solpower.fi/index.php/en/ Some changes, improvements and additions to be made BUT we are open for business and the Facebook page is available herehttps://www.facebook.com/solpower.fi?re ... page_panel

Translations translations translations.

Your page has Kuvaus, under which you mainly sputter English.
Get it properly translated ASAP.

You make pages with Finnish, make sure it is Finnish you write. Just copypasting English makes you look lazy and unprofessional.

Also, having storage status show always "999" looks questionable. I am guessing you mean that you get as many as are ordered, but to Finn they assume them to be amount of devices YOU have in YOUR possession. Not amount you could order from your contacts and eventually get. If you do not have stocks, then state straight that it is something that is ordered from elsewhere as required.

Yhteystiedot -> sivukartta results in error
"Varoitus
Virhe ladatessa komponenttia: com_vm2tags, Komponenttia ei löydy"

masao · Post by **masao** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:12 am

To the OP.
My old acquaintance, a Finn, is running a solar panel installation business in Vaasa, Kokkola area.
If you think you can beat the competition in panel prices, please provide me your quotes and other details like size, manufacturer....etc.
I will forward the info to the guy.
You may use PM if you wish.

t, masao

aguinness · Post by **aguinness** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:07 pm

Tiwaz, thanks for your constructive thoughts, yes the item descriptions should be in Finnish, an oversight that will be changed. As for the sitemap I don´t understand enough about websites to comment on that but I do see the error, I´ll have the web designer look into it. I have also flagged the 999 in stock as I never liked that idea either. thanks.

aguinness · Post by **aguinness** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:10 pm

Masao, I will pm you over the weekend but for the moment he can get prices from the website or contact Jukka or myself through the website if he has a particular product he would like a quote for. I´ll be in touch soon.

Tiwaz · Post by **Tiwaz** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:57 pm

aguinness wrote:Tiwaz, thanks for your constructive thoughts, yes the item descriptions should be in Finnish, an oversight that will be changed. As for the sitemap I don´t understand enough about websites to comment on that but I do see the error, I´ll have the web designer look into it. I have also flagged the 999 in stock as I never liked that idea either. thanks.

Good luck with your business.
Have you obtained software to make invoice and send list? Decent software that remembers your deliveries etc is priceless IF webstore software can't provide it Specially when you start working out taxes.
Oh yes. Your English side has opposite problem. It tells me in description "minimitilausmäärä 10kpl"
And manual is called manuaali. Same on front page slides. Text in Finnish in English version. Go through website and doublecheck languages. In many places they mix.

Ah taxes... Do lentoon vat/ALV percentage and if it is included in the price. Since you only sell in web best make the store really polished.

tuttu · Post by **tuttu** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:40 pm

aguiness, what CMS did you use to build your web page - if you did it yourself?
if you have problems with internationalization, i might be able to recommend something better.

aguinness · Post by **aguinness** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:52 pm

Hi Tuttu, I have no Idea, a friend of a friend built the website for us. What improvements would your suggestion bring?

tuttu · Post by **tuttu** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:49 pm

nah, it's pointless if you're not actually involved in the content management process.
some cms are just better with internationalisation, or generally better and/or easier to use.
but i know next to nothing about e-commerce, so.

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