Citizenship Application 2021

[Momomamo]

For the ones who are waiting more than 17 months like me, do you think is it wise to write to Finnish ombudsman?
https://www.oikeusasiamies.fi/en_GB/web ... -ombudsman

[mani121]

For the ones who are waiting more than 17 months like me, do you think is it wise to write to Finnish ombudsman?
https://www.oikeusasiamies.fi/en_GB/web ... -ombudsman

You guys should definitely go for it and access all the authorities to make your voice heard. These lazy people damn care for you + your career. We are the people paying for their salaries from our taxes. Because this department is made for us, and we are the people most ignored by them.

[betelgeuse]

For the ones who are waiting more than 17 months like me, do you think is it wise to write to Finnish ombudsman?
https://www.oikeusasiamies.fi/en_GB/web ... -ombudsman

Yes.

[Alexithymia_again]

Hi, is your country in list?

Yes, it is

This is crazy, did you send them email? What the hell is wrong with them

Last time I contacted them was in Jan I think and then I stopped caring anymore as I got extremely busy with my research work. At the time (for the 4th time total) they said the new deadline for decisions for applicants from the countries on the list has been extended by two months. In other words, new deadline is 18months instead of 16months.

[Alexithymia_again]

For the ones who are waiting more than 17 months like me, do you think is it wise to write to Finnish ombudsman?
https://www.oikeusasiamies.fi/en_GB/web ... -ombudsman

It could be helpful, esp. when there are multiple deadlines for the same citizenship application.
If one uses time calculator wizard it shows 5-7 month (changed from 7-12)
If you go to citizenship application page it shows 10-16months
If you goto enter finland, it shows 7 to 18 months.
Having said that complaining would only make migri to streamline these deadlines and make it 7 to 18 months for everyone, I don’t think there would be a considerable change in actual behaviour with the current situation of COVID, brexit etc (excuse or reality whatever).

[heretostay]

The 18 months is ESTIMATED processing time, not a deadline. There is no 'deadline' for processing a citizenship application that I can find anywhere.

[FinlandGirl]

You guys should definitely go for it and access all the authorities to make your voice heard. These lazy people damn care for you + your career. We are the people paying for their salaries from our taxes. Because this department is made for us, and we are the people most ignored by them.

Many people who apply for citizenship have been living from unemployment benefits paid from Finnish taxes their whole time in Finland.

Slow processing is not the fault of Migri.
It is known for years that Migri is understaffed.

Even for urgent matters like student RPs they often have far too long queues with some students not receiving their RPs before studies start, and when they barely manage to keep up with urgent matters there is little progress on non-urgent matters.

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[Esu]

You guys should definitely go for it and access all the authorities to make your voice heard. These lazy people damn care for you + your career. We are the people paying for their salaries from our taxes. Because this department is made for us, and we are the people most ignored by them.

Many people who apply for citizenship have been living from unemployment benefits paid from Finnish taxes their whole time in Finland.

Slow processing is not the fault of Migri.
It is known for years that Migri is understaffed.

Even for urgent matters like student RPs they often have far too long queues with some students not receiving their RPs before studies start, and when they barely manage to keep up with urgent matters there is little progress on non-urgent matters.

Can you show proofs to back your claim that many people who apply for Finnish citizenship have been living on unemployment benefits their whole time in Finland? How many of them do you know personally? Over 95% of the people I know personally came here as students and you can’t live on unemployment benefit as a student coming outside the EU.

And on students residence permit, what then is there to verify when all the documents like bank statements, work contracts, insurance and enough school credit are all from here (Finland)? They can make decisions on student RP right away especially if the student have been in Finland already.

[betelgeuse]

Can you show proofs to back your claim that many people who apply for Finnish citizenship have been living on unemployment benefits their whole time in Finland? How many of them do you know personally? Over 95% of the people I know personally came here as students and you can’t live on unemployment benefit as a student coming outside the EU.

And on students residence permit, what then is there to verify when all the documents like bank statements, work contracts, insurance and enough school credit are all from here (Finland)? They can make decisions on student RP right away especially if the student have been in Finland already.

” You are not required to have secure means of support if”

https://migri.fi/en/income-requirement

These people could then eventually apply for citizenship while having been on benefits.

[FinlandGirl]

You guys should definitely go for it and access all the authorities to make your voice heard. These lazy people damn care for you + your career. We are the people paying for their salaries from our taxes. Because this department is made for us, and we are the people most ignored by them.

Many people who apply for citizenship have been living from unemployment benefits paid from Finnish taxes their whole time in Finland.

Slow processing is not the fault of Migri.
It is known for years that Migri is understaffed.

Even for urgent matters like student RPs they often have far too long queues with some students not receiving their RPs before studies start, and when they barely manage to keep up with urgent matters there is little progress on non-urgent matters.

Can you show proofs to back your claim that many people who apply for Finnish citizenship have been living on unemployment benefits their whole time in Finland? How many of them do you know personally? Over 95% of the people I know personally came here as students and you can’t live on unemployment benefit as a student coming outside the EU.

If you came as spouse, you can live on unemployment benefits until you are a Finnish citizen.

[FinlandGirl]

” You are not required to have secure means of support if”

https://migri.fi/en/income-requirement

These people could then eventually apply for citizenship while having been on benefits.

Not only in these cases.

A few years ago the government decided it would be a good use of taxpayer money to pay unemployment benefits even to spouses who did have to show secure means of support for being granted an RP.
This feels like a policy designed by people who want women to be housewives.

[Alexithymia_again]

The 18 months is ESTIMATED processing time, not a deadline. There is no 'deadline' for processing a citizenship application that I can find anywhere.

Agree, wrong use of the term on my end