Citizenship Application 2022

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Scolix
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Scolix » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:49 am

According to Migris's FB page, they still have around 2500 pending cases from 2020.
https://www.facebook.com/Maahanmuuttovir
They plan to resolve this by the end of this year. At the same time, they are also looking into new applications too.

Some people are waiting for more than 2.5 years. This is a very long wait. People should start making more and more complaints. If there was a minimum numbers of complaints necessary to consider the matter important and take any action, we should file more complaints.



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Mamu
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Mamu » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:04 pm

Scolix wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:49 am
According to Migris's FB page, they still have around 2500 pending cases from 2020.
https://www.facebook.com/Maahanmuuttovir
They plan to resolve this by the end of this year. At the same time, they are also looking into new applications too.

Some people are waiting for more than 2.5 years. This is a very long wait. People should start making more and more complaints. If there was a minimum numbers of complaints necessary to consider the matter important and take any action, we should file more complaints.
They told me today on the fone .I applied April 2021 average time get decision for me 1-2 month no longer then this.

SMUN
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by SMUN » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:10 pm

Scolix wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:49 am
According to Migris's FB page, they still have around 2500 pending cases from 2020.
https://www.facebook.com/Maahanmuuttovir
They plan to resolve this by the end of this year. At the same time, they are also looking into new applications too.

Some people are waiting for more than 2.5 years. This is a very long wait. People should start making more and more complaints. If there was a minimum numbers of complaints necessary to consider the matter important and take any action, we should file more complaints.
Well according to their citizenship-related bulletin the 2020 applications will be dealt by spring of 2023.

SMUN
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by SMUN » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:14 pm

skull_maito wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:16 am
I submitted a personal dissatisfaction letter to the head of Migri, and copied some other agencies that are in charge of discrimination in Finland, but I am still yet to get a response from them yet. But at least, I had a good feeling afterwards to have taken that step.

I am not jealous of those who got applied and got their decisions within 7 months, the main question I asked was if Migri is pointing to backlogs from 2021 applications for their delayed decisions. On what grounds are those who submitted their applications in November 2021-January 2022 already receiving decisions over those who have been waiting for over 17 months without their applications being opened at all. If that is not selective profiling, I don't know what else could best describe their actions.
Well, at least you did your part. The wait is painful.
It has been over 21 months for me as well. Still stage 1, they did not even bother opening my application. While applicants from 2022 are getting their decisions.

SMUN
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by SMUN » Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:26 pm

esimerkki wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:30 pm
skull_maito wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:24 pm
This message is to everyone who has been waiting for over 15 months. I submitted my application way back in March 2021 and my applications not yet even opened. But whenever I read about those who submitted theirs just less than a year ago and all getting their decisions, it shows basically one simple truth (systemic discrimination) from megrim. I personally know of two individual cases with applications submitted way back in December 2020 and theirs are not even yet opened.

If you know you are part of this affected individuals ( and you have not issues in anyway attached to your application, which mean you have to be on a clean slate), I am beginning to look for more people in our shoes so we can get our stories out to the media. I won't wait until the October deadline given to me by megrim before I get into action, cos I know my case will be extended just like the others that I know of. Kindly signify here, if you are bold enough to be interviewed by journalists on this.

I rest my case.
Count me in.

Applied in EnterFinland 31.08.2020
Identity proved 01.09.2020
Still stage 1
Hi. Any update on your application ?

Edward35
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Edward35 » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:08 pm

SMUN wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:14 pm
skull_maito wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:16 am
I submitted a personal dissatisfaction letter to the head of Migri, and copied some other agencies that are in charge of discrimination in Finland, but I am still yet to get a response from them yet. But at least, I had a good feeling afterwards to have taken that step.

I am not jealous of those who got applied and got their decisions within 7 months, the main question I asked was if Migri is pointing to backlogs from 2021 applications for their delayed decisions. On what grounds are those who submitted their applications in November 2021-January 2022 already receiving decisions over those who have been waiting for over 17 months without their applications being opened at all. If that is not selective profiling, I don't know what else could best describe their actions.
Well, at least you did your part. The wait is painful.
It has been over 21 months for me as well. Still stage 1, they did not even bother opening my application. While applicants from 2022 are getting their decisions.
Simply, they don’t treat some of their customers well. Always coming out flimsy excuses. 17kk my application not opened and still stage one. When you called them also , the best answer comes from them we are dealing with 2020 applicants meanwhile they are giving decisions to 2022 applicants. Very bad attitude from their side. They are not even fourthcoming with their answers.

Auringon_kukka
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Auringon_kukka » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:16 pm

Mamusha wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:25 pm
Does anyone know how long will it take to get permanent residence permit? I already applied for Finnish citizenship but my current residence permit A is expiring at the end of December. I just wonder if I need to apply for permit A again or shall I apply straight for P permit while waiting for the Finnish citizenship. The latest A permit was issued because of my temporary work contract. Starting this September my work became permanent.
You might want to see this (from page 17 of forum):
"I applied A-extension in November 2021, got the decision in one week, and the card arrived in two weeks. If you are in the same situation and the country is not on the list, I would suggest applying for the permit extension, not the permanent one. The decision will come faster, and the residence permit will become invalid when you get the citizenship."

In this case, the writer had applied for citizenship, like you. It would seem that decisions on extended permits do not take as long. Also, if you apply in EnterFinland using strong authentication (banking credentials), you are less likely to have to visit a service point to prove your identity. Just make sure to have your application in BEFORE your current residence permit expires.

Food for thought maybe.

esimerkki
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by esimerkki » Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:14 pm

SMUN wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:26 pm
esimerkki wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:30 pm
skull_maito wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:24 pm
This message is to everyone who has been waiting for over 15 months. I submitted my application way back in March 2021 and my applications not yet even opened. But whenever I read about those who submitted theirs just less than a year ago and all getting their decisions, it shows basically one simple truth (systemic discrimination) from megrim. I personally know of two individual cases with applications submitted way back in December 2020 and theirs are not even yet opened.

If you know you are part of this affected individuals ( and you have not issues in anyway attached to your application, which mean you have to be on a clean slate), I am beginning to look for more people in our shoes so we can get our stories out to the media. I won't wait until the October deadline given to me by megrim before I get into action, cos I know my case will be extended just like the others that I know of. Kindly signify here, if you are bold enough to be interviewed by journalists on this.

I rest my case.
Count me in.

Applied in EnterFinland 31.08.2020
Identity proved 01.09.2020
Still stage 1
Hi. Any update on your application ?
no mate, no update from Migri.
Just my queue number is slowly moving (decreases by 90 - 100 per month), now 520.

Edward35
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Edward35 » Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:36 pm

esimerkki wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:14 pm
SMUN wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:26 pm
esimerkki wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:30 pm


Count me in.

Applied in EnterFinland 31.08.2020
Identity proved 01.09.2020
Still stage 1
Hi. Any update on your application ?
no mate, no update from Migri.
Just my queue number is slowly moving (decreases by 90 - 100 per month), now 520.
Mate, country on the list?

esimerkki
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by esimerkki » Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:03 pm

Edward35 wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:36 pm
esimerkki wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 6:14 pm
SMUN wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:26 pm


Hi. Any update on your application ?
no mate, no update from Migri.
Just my queue number is slowly moving (decreases by 90 - 100 per month), now 520.
Mate, country on the list?
no mate, not on the list.
but I am a sand person.

Mamusha
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by Mamusha » Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:04 am

Hi. Thank for your help. Yes, actually A permits are issued quite fast. My current A permit also arrived in a couple of weeks. Maybe it’s worth just extending it for now instead of applying for P permit. I believe that they must give it for 4 years straight like they do it for quota refugees.

I already scheduled an appointment for permit extension and going there in October. Oh never ending expenses with permits in Finland 😝.
Auringon_kukka wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:16 pm
Mamusha wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:25 pm
Does anyone know how long will it take to get permanent residence permit? I already applied for Finnish citizenship but my current residence permit A is expiring at the end of December. I just wonder if I need to apply for permit A again or shall I apply straight for P permit while waiting for the Finnish citizenship. The latest A permit was issued because of my temporary work contract. Starting this September my work became permanent.
You might want to see this (from page 17 of forum):
"I applied A-extension in November 2021, got the decision in one week, and the card arrived in two weeks. If you are in the same situation and the country is not on the list, I would suggest applying for the permit extension, not the permanent one. The decision will come faster, and the residence permit will become invalid when you get the citizenship."

In this case, the writer had applied for citizenship, like you. It would seem that decisions on extended permits do not take as long. Also, if you apply in EnterFinland using strong authentication (banking credentials), you are less likely to have to visit a service point to prove your identity. Just make sure to have your application in BEFORE your current residence permit expires.

Food for thought maybe.

sealgat
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by sealgat » Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:44 pm

Mamusha wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 8:04 am
Hi. Thank for your help. Yes, actually A permits are issued quite fast. My current A permit also arrived in a couple of weeks. Maybe it’s worth just extending it for now instead of applying for P permit. I believe that they must give it for 4 years straight like they do it for quota refugees.

I already scheduled an appointment for permit extension and going there in October. Oh never ending expenses with permits in Finland 😝.
Auringon_kukka wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:16 pm
Mamusha wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:25 pm
Does anyone know how long will it take to get permanent residence permit? I already applied for Finnish citizenship but my current residence permit A is expiring at the end of December. I just wonder if I need to apply for permit A again or shall I apply straight for P permit while waiting for the Finnish citizenship. The latest A permit was issued because of my temporary work contract. Starting this September my work became permanent.
You might want to see this (from page 17 of forum):
"I applied A-extension in November 2021, got the decision in one week, and the card arrived in two weeks. If you are in the same situation and the country is not on the list, I would suggest applying for the permit extension, not the permanent one. The decision will come faster, and the residence permit will become invalid when you get the citizenship."

In this case, the writer had applied for citizenship, like you. It would seem that decisions on extended permits do not take as long. Also, if you apply in EnterFinland using strong authentication (banking credentials), you are less likely to have to visit a service point to prove your identity. Just make sure to have your application in BEFORE your current residence permit expires.

Food for thought maybe.
Well in my case i found, that there is an option visa for job search is available not only for students, but for researchers too. Since i am a researcher and came to Finland on research visa i will apply for this one job search if will not get citizenship. May be this info will be usefull if any researchers here😛. I applied for citizenship because i just wanted to change my job safely. Now i am pretty much tied to my job contract, but with this opportunity ll have a chance to change it. If here there r some folks who came to do phd or research in finland, may be this info could be useful to u that they have this opportunizy now.

kalaizanala
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by kalaizanala » Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:35 pm

Guys, do you think it is possible to switch A permit to B permit during the citizenship waiting process? Does some of you had such an experience and got positive decision while being on study B permit?

boy30062021
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by boy30062021 » Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:22 pm

kalaizanala wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:35 pm
Guys, do you think it is possible to switch A permit to B permit during the citizenship waiting process? Does some of you had such an experience and got positive decision while being on study B permit?
There is no B permit issued anymore. Now stydent gets 4 years A permit straight.

But if it exists once you do that you will never be eligible for citizenship. What on earth you will change even A permit to B. With A permit you can study 😅😅😅

kalaizanala
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Re: Citizenship Application 2022

Post by kalaizanala » Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:32 pm

boy30062021 wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:22 pm
kalaizanala wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:35 pm
Guys, do you think it is possible to switch A permit to B permit during the citizenship waiting process? Does some of you had such an experience and got positive decision while being on study B permit?
There is no B permit issued anymore. Now stydent gets 4 years A permit straight.

But if it exists once you do that you will never be eligible for citizenship. What on earth you will change even A permit to B. With A permit you can study 😅😅😅
I was thinking the A permit is now for university level students only. The ones who study in vocational schools still get B permits.


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