Citizenship Application 2023

[sri3001]

My quene number has stopped moving.....has anyone experience this

If I remember correctly from old posts, the queue number stops moving or moves very slowly when you are about to move to stage 2.

Hahaha Migri is making us all fool . My queue had been moving slowly for the past 6 months about 20 - 25 a week. Still in stage 1 so I would say it is just coincidence

Ooops , but I remember people mentioning that their number stopped moving before moving to stage 2, isn't it?

[Edward35]

If I remember correctly from old posts, the queue number stops moving or moves very slowly when you are about to move to stage 2.

Hahaha Migri is making us all fool . My queue had been moving slowly for the past 6 months about 20 - 25 a week. Still in stage 1 so I would say it is just coincidence

Ooops , but I remember people mentioning that their number stopped moving before moving to stage 2, isn't it?

There is nothing special mate!! My own is stacked too

[pizzapasta]

Finnish language!

My quene number has stopped moving.....has anyone experience this

If I remember correctly from old posts, the queue number stops moving or moves very slowly when you are about to move to stage 2.

Yeah I was actually about to say same. A few people reported that they were moved to processing or even decision made after their queue numbers were stagnant for a while. So Good luck! I truly hope for you that that’s the case.

[Subzero]

My quene number has stopped moving.....has anyone experience this

If I remember correctly from old posts, the queue number stops moving or moves very slowly when you are about to move to stage 2.

Yeah I was actually about to say same. A few people reported that they were moved to processing or even decision made after their queue numbers were stagnant for a while. So Good luck! I truly hope for you that that’s the case.

We are so desperate that we see everything as a sign......

[Mamu]

If I remember correctly from old posts, the queue number stops moving or moves very slowly when you are about to move to stage 2.

Yeah I was actually about to say same. A few people reported that they were moved to processing or even decision made after their queue numbers were stagnant for a while. So Good luck! I truly hope for you that that’s the case.

We are so desperate that we see everything as a sign......

It's not wise to wait for two years .Even the most patient person goes wild,It's ridiculous to treat some people differently.

[Edward35]

Yeah I was actually about to say same. A few people reported that they were moved to processing or even decision made after their queue numbers were stagnant for a while. So Good luck! I truly hope for you that that’s the case.

We are so desperate that we see everything as a sign......

It's not wise to wait for two years .Even the most patient person goes wild,It's ridiculous to treat some people differently.

All jokes aside, this application has really shown me how frustration,anxiety and breakdown can affect human beings day to day life!! All thanks to Migri for hurting some applicants without reasons!!

[Subzero]

We are so desperate that we see everything as a sign......

It's not wise to wait for two years .Even the most patient person goes wild,It's ridiculous to treat some people differently.

All jokes aside, this application has really shown me how frustration,anxiety and breakdown can affect human beings day to day life!! All thanks to Migri for hurting some applicants without reasons!!

Edward I honestly didn't know the true meaning of the statement "Patience is a virtue" but after what Migri is doing to some of us I now understand the statement.

The ability to wait for something without getting angry or upset is a valuable quality in a person. Note: patience (noun) = the ability to wait calmly; the capacity to accept delay without getting angry | virtue (noun) = a quality or trait that most people consider to be morally good or desirable in a person

Going through this stage of my life has made me realize this.

[Mamu]

It's not wise to wait for two years .Even the most patient person goes wild,It's ridiculous to treat some people differently.

All jokes aside, this application has really shown me how frustration,anxiety and breakdown can affect human beings day to day life!! All thanks to Migri for hurting some applicants without reasons!!

Edward I honestly didn't know the true meaning of the statement "Patience is a virtue" but after what Migri is doing to some of us I now understand the statement.

The ability to wait for something without getting angry or upset is a valuable quality in a person. Note: patience (noun) = the ability to wait calmly; the capacity to accept delay without getting angry | virtue (noun) = a quality or trait that most people consider to be morally good or desirable in a person

Going through this stage of my life has made me realize this.

Hey Edward!
Has your application moved to stage 2?

[Edward35]

All jokes aside, this application has really shown me how frustration,anxiety and breakdown can affect human beings day to day life!! All thanks to Migri for hurting some applicants without reasons!!

Edward I honestly didn't know the true meaning of the statement "Patience is a virtue" but after what Migri is doing to some of us I now understand the statement.

The ability to wait for something without getting angry or upset is a valuable quality in a person. Note: patience (noun) = the ability to wait calmly; the capacity to accept delay without getting angry | virtue (noun) = a quality or trait that most people consider to be morally good or desirable in a person

Going through this stage of my life has made me realize this.

Hey Edward!
Has your application moved to stage 2?

Sir, I haven’t got notification from them!! The last time I checked I was still stage one with queue number 639

[37yqp8098y5]

I started to like you

But PS ( what is considered right on Finnish scale) policy is based on fear mongering , they offer little to none solutions.
So can you please show how PS or Kokoomus can solve the problems you mentioned?

By the way I still didn't cast my vote.

This is complete BS. The whole reason people constantly vote left is because the loudest vocal minorities plus liberalist masses scream at the top of their lungs that the world would literally come to a freaking end if the right wing got into power even once. Liberalist and socialist clowns tote some doomsday theory nonsense that if eg. the Finns party ever got into power, they'd just outright completely close Finland's borders, pull all the money out of schools and hospitals and something, something, slippery slope, the world would just end. You need a balance of left and right. We've had nothing but left for the last 12 years. It's no wonder things are sliding so far downhill. We've been throwing money away for over a decade, maybe it's time to stop propping up failing businesses and policies so you know... people actually start using their brains to solve problems instead of relying on handouts.

The whole reason that Finland once WAS a decent place to move to, was purely because of the extremely high degree of nationalism, strong self-image and feeling of dedication of the government to its people. All of these things are wrongly associated with the right-wing. Yet every single one of them is what has made ANY country worth visiting and being a part of. Those were days that bought us leaders like nobel peace prize winner Martti Ahtisaari, Mauno Koivisto and in some cases Urho Kekkonen and Kyösti Kallio.

What do we have now? Parties that get "elected" and simply have their leaders change within a month or two so a puppet leader that NO ONE voted for gets into power. It's been done almost every election in UK, Australia, Sweden, Norway and now it's happening in Finland.

The only people interested in these leftist socialist policies are either:

1. Misguided fools who are too stupid to understand that all these policies do is disarm and dig into your pockets steal your money, whilst the party looks for even more crafty ways to take your money and curb your rights.
2. People who are literally too freaking lazy to even get a real job and absolutely insist that they should be able to sustain a family of 5 whilst working a singluar job as a magician or some other ultra niché job.

The biggest weakness of a democracy is that it gives people the illusion of clear goals and promises when all a party has to do is just change their mind immediately after getting into power. It's the same thing as how Biden did a complete 180° on his promise to forgive student debt. People on on the left say what they think will get them elected and then they do the opposite. People on the right are generally extremely honest about the problems they want to fix because they don't have the interest or goals of the left, and therefore don't need to lie.

The only system that truly works is a meritocracy or national socialism.
Watch this and actually learn something I doubt any single one of you could formulate a single argument to the red policy. Finland LITERALLY was a 100% red example in that video. It's what got them independence for Christ's sake.

Let's look at the facts. With previous governments you had much more freedom. Leftist, socialist governments do nothing but pass more laws that take power away from the people and give it to eg. the police and military. Being under NATO now, we are completely obligated to go and fight the wars that the US, UK, etc. all start.

What was Finland previously? A close knit, small country of highly nationalist people whom were very fond of their country and whom put their focus first into their own country before anything else. In short, you keep your family and home healthy before you start trying to help others.

What is Finland today? A country overflowing with foreigners who have literally no understanding or interest whatsoever of Finnish culture and customs and hundreds of thousands of Russian "refugees". Plus the dwindling former majority of nationalist Finns whom are now mostly geriatrics. Previously run by a government that pisses away billions of dollars in aid to Africa, Greece, etc. and who headed the privatization of some of Finland's largest public industries leading to a complete stagnation in our growth as these industries IMMEDIATELY outsourced their labor and materials to the cheapest places possible (eg. India, China, etc). I'm looking at you Nokia.

As other Nordic and even Scandinavian countries are seeking to adopt more of a US model of trade and economy. Finland is somehow in the stone age with previous leaders thinking that if we just constantly throw more money at the welfare and immigration systems, we'll solve all of our problems. In response they give money (like universal income) deliberately to people who have no intention of working and who haven't worked in years. In the attempt to what... motivate them to work? What motivates people to work in the US, UK, Australia etc. is the fact that if you are unable to find work yourself, but are able bodied and REFUSE to take the work given to you, they literally just cut your payments. So it's either, study and get a job you WANT to do, or do the job you are GIVEN to do. In any case, you toe-the-line. If you really cannot work, those countries have fair exemptions from those responsibilities. But they are extremely tough on people who have any intention of never bothering to work, but are otherwise totally physically and mentally capable of doing so.

Honestly though, I'm not expecting the majority of people here in this forum to understand any of this, as most literally cannot even handle something as basic and simple as waiting for citizenship (even if it takes a few years) without constant complaining and self-inflicting anxiety. It seems likely that most people posting here will vote for future Sanna Marins and then wonder why their child is being bullied at schools, when bullying in Finland has increased by 4850% in the last 6 years under socialist policies.

As I said. The smart will take their citizenship and leave. Why would anyone want to live in a country that has no exports and socialist policies. Now the only thing remotely talked about Finland is that it's a safe haven for Russians fleeing conscription and somewhere that you are almost guaranteed to gain asylum to. This basically all started with Tarja @#$% Halonen. Which I'm sure most of you have totally forgotten about or had no idea that she was responsible for presidentially pardoning the highest amount of rapists and murderers in history.

Oh and mind you, to really showcase the utter moral corruption and lies of the left. Funny how Tarja said that this should be up to the courts in 2004, whilst still having flown under the radar for pardoning more people than anyone else in history. Truly the left are a bunch of liars and bastards. At least Niinistö has only pardoned 10% as many.

Every single one of you whom emigrated to Finland in the last couple of years and even wanted to live here and eventually get citizenship has come here and taken advantage of the GOOD non-socialist policies that built this country. Most of which were capitalist. Those systems that were built by the giants we see memorialised in statues and on buildings and what used to be on our currency (markka). Not the socialist garbage like Tarja Halonen and Sanna Marin. THOSE are the people who built what used to be this great nation.

Remember that when you get the right to vote.

None of the people who come after us will have any understanding of any of this. None of them will know the first thing about what it was like to move to Finland in 2009 back when many of us still had black and white mobile phones and people from YLE where knocking on your door asking you to pay TV tax. Now they just take it out of your salary and use it to push socialist, LGBT crap that only serves to further alienate people.

[37yqp8098y5]

I think they want foreigners in Finland so they keep fear mongering their base , and blame foreigners for everything going wrong in Finland.
Immigration is a vital card for them to play, and they need that card. Can you imagine their speech without scaring their base?

Truly one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum or anywhere.

I agree with esimerkki in the sense that populist parties actually need immigrants around to put the blame on when governance is not going well.

Great, even more ignorance...

Time for you to do some reading because you both clearly don't know the first thing about PS's policies.

https://www.perussuomalaiset.fi/kielisivu/in-english/

You could also read this if you have more attention span than a goldfish and know how to read an academic paper: https://core.ac.uk/reader/220157040

In short, it says that every other party has declined to even discuss or mention the topic of immigration, leaving it solely up to PS to take up as a topic. In conclusion, it also served to create unfair prejudice toward the party as they basically got singled out for even daring to have opinions on immigration.

PS has been quoted by many popular politicians and journalists as the most left-wing party of the "non-socialist" parties. They are even strongly supportive of Finland's current 'welfare state' setup which I quite frankly totally opposite but with more than half the country getting payouts from Kela, there's little anyone can likely do to pull off those leeches. Speaking like one party is either "right or left" is some of the most ignorant crap ever. PS is economically as left as it gets, and the only reason it even gets called "right wing" is because it's a populist party. Which I doubt even half this forum would be able to say what that means without googling it.

Immigration is ONE of the party's policies and it is always highly blown out of proportion because it's the easiest way for the socialist swines to attack the party for being "racist" and "xenophobic" because it is the only party that dares say that our current immigration policy needs to change. Largely immigration is a complete lose case scenario for Finland. We already get tens of thousands of people moving here just from EU freedom of movement rights. Then there's thousands more who marry someone living here. Then there's the children those people all have. It makes perfect sense that we would need to at least think very carefully as an extremely tiny country compared to our neighbors, about the grounds in which we let people come here and if we can even in a humanitarian sense take responsibility of them without harming our duties to those who are already living and working here.

Has everyone already forgotten how Angela Merkel has completely run Germany into the dirt through completely laxative policies?

Helsinki is already packed. You guys think we should just terraform even more of the sea and make more man-made islands to build more high-rise apartments? Finland hasn't even bloody discussed the topic of immigration or changing any policies in over 20 years. It's high time something changed. If you need to import more people from overseas because things aren't working then you need to reevaluate the whole purpose and point of immigration but it isn't to prop a failing system up. Let's start using our brains.

[ihalainen]

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[Schmania]

I think they want foreigners in Finland so they keep fear mongering their base , and blame foreigners for everything going wrong in Finland.
Immigration is a vital card for them to play, and they need that card. Can you imagine their speech without scaring their base?

Truly one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum or anywhere.

I agree with esimerkki in the sense that populist parties actually need immigrants around to put the blame on when governance is not going well.

Great, even more ignorance...

Time for you to do some reading because you both clearly don't know the first thing about PS's policies.

https://www.perussuomalaiset.fi/kielisivu/in-english/

You could also read this if you have more attention span than a goldfish and know how to read an academic paper: https://core.ac.uk/reader/220157040

In short, it says that every other party has declined to even discuss or mention the topic of immigration, leaving it solely up to PS to take up as a topic. In conclusion, it also served to create unfair prejudice toward the party as they basically got singled out for even daring to have opinions on immigration.

PS has been quoted by many popular politicians and journalists as the most left-wing party of the "non-socialist" parties. They are even strongly supportive of Finland's current 'welfare state' setup which I quite frankly totally opposite but with more than half the country getting payouts from Kela, there's little anyone can likely do to pull off those leeches. Speaking like one party is either "right or left" is some of the most ignorant crap ever. PS is economically as left as it gets, and the only reason it even gets called "right wing" is because it's a populist party. Which I doubt even half this forum would be able to say what that means without googling it.

Immigration is ONE of the party's policies and it is always highly blown out of proportion because it's the easiest way for the socialist swines to attack the party for being "racist" and "xenophobic" because it is the only party that dares say that our current immigration policy needs to change. Largely immigration is a complete lose case scenario for Finland. We already get tens of thousands of people moving here just from EU freedom of movement rights. Then there's thousands more who marry someone living here. Then there's the children those people all have. It makes perfect sense that we would need to at least think very carefully as an extremely tiny country compared to our neighbors, about the grounds in which we let people come here and if we can even in a humanitarian sense take responsibility of them without harming our duties to those who are already living and working here.

Has everyone already forgotten how Angela Merkel has completely run Germany into the dirt through completely laxative policies?

Helsinki is already packed. You guys think we should just terraform even more of the sea and make more man-made islands to build more high-rise apartments? Finland hasn't even bloody discussed the topic of immigration or changing any policies in over 20 years. It's high time something changed. If you need to import more people from overseas because things aren't working then you need to reevaluate the whole purpose and point of immigration but it isn't to prop a failing system up. Let's start using our brains.

I think if you want to have heated political discussions you should go create a dedicated topic on the forum and take all your political assumptions there instead of flooding the citizenship branch

[pizzapasta]

I think they want foreigners in Finland so they keep fear mongering their base , and blame foreigners for everything going wrong in Finland.
Immigration is a vital card for them to play, and they need that card. Can you imagine their speech without scaring their base?

Truly one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum or anywhere.

I agree with esimerkki in the sense that populist parties actually need immigrants around to put the blame on when governance is not going well.

Great, even more ignorance...

Time for you to do some reading because you both clearly don't know the first thing about PS's policies.

https://www.perussuomalaiset.fi/kielisivu/in-english/

You could also read this if you have more attention span than a goldfish and know how to read an academic paper: https://core.ac.uk/reader/220157040

In short, it says that every other party has declined to even discuss or mention the topic of immigration, leaving it solely up to PS to take up as a topic. In conclusion, it also served to create unfair prejudice toward the party as they basically got singled out for even daring to have opinions on immigration.

PS has been quoted by many popular politicians and journalists as the most left-wing party of the "non-socialist" parties. They are even strongly supportive of Finland's current 'welfare state' setup which I quite frankly totally opposite but with more than half the country getting payouts from Kela, there's little anyone can likely do to pull off those leeches. Speaking like one party is either "right or left" is some of the most ignorant crap ever. PS is economically as left as it gets, and the only reason it even gets called "right wing" is because it's a populist party. Which I doubt even half this forum would be able to say what that means without googling it.

Immigration is ONE of the party's policies and it is always highly blown out of proportion because it's the easiest way for the socialist swines to attack the party for being "racist" and "xenophobic" because it is the only party that dares say that our current immigration policy needs to change. Largely immigration is a complete lose case scenario for Finland. We already get tens of thousands of people moving here just from EU freedom of movement rights. Then there's thousands more who marry someone living here. Then there's the children those people all have. It makes perfect sense that we would need to at least think very carefully as an extremely tiny country compared to our neighbors, about the grounds in which we let people come here and if we can even in a humanitarian sense take responsibility of them without harming our duties to those who are already living and working here.

Has everyone already forgotten how Angela Merkel has completely run Germany into the dirt through completely laxative policies?

Helsinki is already packed. You guys think we should just terraform even more of the sea and make more man-made islands to build more high-rise apartments? Finland hasn't even bloody discussed the topic of immigration or changing any policies in over 20 years. It's high time something changed. If you need to import more people from overseas because things aren't working then you need to reevaluate the whole purpose and point of immigration but it isn't to prop a failing system up. Let's start using our brains.

Man, why do have so much bitterness in your heart bro ? All the insults and condescending remarks. I can’t even…….

[boy30062021]

I think they want foreigners in Finland so they keep fear mongering their base , and blame foreigners for everything going wrong in Finland.
Immigration is a vital card for them to play, and they need that card. Can you imagine their speech without scaring their base?

Truly one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum or anywhere.

I agree with esimerkki in the sense that populist parties actually need immigrants around to put the blame on when governance is not going well.

Great, even more ignorance...

Time for you to do some reading because you both clearly don't know the first thing about PS's policies.

https://www.perussuomalaiset.fi/kielisivu/in-english/

You could also read this if you have more attention span than a goldfish and know how to read an academic paper: https://core.ac.uk/reader/220157040

In short, it says that every other party has declined to even discuss or mention the topic of immigration, leaving it solely up to PS to take up as a topic. In conclusion, it also served to create unfair prejudice toward the party as they basically got singled out for even daring to have opinions on immigration.

PS has been quoted by many popular politicians and journalists as the most left-wing party of the "non-socialist" parties. They are even strongly supportive of Finland's current 'welfare state' setup which I quite frankly totally opposite but with more than half the country getting payouts from Kela, there's little anyone can likely do to pull off those leeches. Speaking like one party is either "right or left" is some of the most ignorant crap ever. PS is economically as left as it gets, and the only reason it even gets called "right wing" is because it's a populist party. Which I doubt even half this forum would be able to say what that means without googling it.

Immigration is ONE of the party's policies and it is always highly blown out of proportion because it's the easiest way for the socialist swines to attack the party for being "racist" and "xenophobic" because it is the only party that dares say that our current immigration policy needs to change. Largely immigration is a complete lose case scenario for Finland. We already get tens of thousands of people moving here just from EU freedom of movement rights. Then there's thousands more who marry someone living here. Then there's the children those people all have. It makes perfect sense that we would need to at least think very carefully as an extremely tiny country compared to our neighbors, about the grounds in which we let people come here and if we can even in a humanitarian sense take responsibility of them without harming our duties to those who are already living and working here.

Has everyone already forgotten how Angela Merkel has completely run Germany into the dirt through completely laxative policies?

Helsinki is already packed. You guys think we should just terraform even more of the sea and make more man-made islands to build more high-rise apartments? Finland hasn't even bloody discussed the topic of immigration or changing any policies in over 20 years. It's high time something changed. If you need to import more people from overseas because things aren't working then you need to reevaluate the whole purpose and point of immigration but it isn't to prop a failing system up. Let's start using our brains.

Man, why do have so much bitterness in your heart bro ? All the insults and condescending remarks. I can’t even…….

This guy is suffering from a mental unstability that does not have a name . He is the one saying we cant wait for years for our citizenship and we complain a lot for waiting longer but he is here and comments about citizenship. If he is really patient he should never be here and just wait the day he gets his own. This channel is purely for citizenship forum but he is just purely showing how rude and homophobic he is.

PS: he needs to talk to psychotherapist I believe he really needs that