resident permit and healthcare.

matkailija · Post by **matkailija** » Tue May 17, 2005 6:05 am

just curious when i come to Finland and my wife applies for residence is she entitled to social benefits? mean health care and all if not? when? or what need to do im Finnish citizen.

thanks for all answers.

Jake

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Hank W. · Post by **Hank W.** » Tue May 17, 2005 10:11 am

Yes and no. Some immediately, some after 2 years, some after working...
http://www.kela.fi
(and yes, it is confusing even for the ladies working there so you ask three times and submit an application and the answer is usually some excuse for no...)

matkailija · Post by **matkailija** » Tue May 17, 2005 1:58 pm

Hank W. wrote:Yes and no. Some immediately, some after 2 years, some after working...
http://www.kela.fi
(and yes, it is confusing even for the ladies working there so you ask three times and submit an application and the answer is usually some excuse for no...)

thanks preciate it.

the thing ive been thinking that if we make the baby in Finland do we get any benefits or need to post pone that couple years

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Jake

RA · Post by RA » Wed May 18, 2005 9:13 am

matkailija wrote:
thanks preciate it.

the thing ive been thinking that if we make the baby in Finland do we get any benefits or need to post pone that couple years .

Jake

As Hank said, the information you require is at http://www.kela.fi Click on families with children.

Andulka · Post by **Andulka** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:06 am

I am a Finnish citizen, moved back to Finland after several years abroad, brought along a hubby who got his Kela card and right to all benefits immediately after receiving his residence permit (which took 1 day to acquire in Prague) and coming to Finland. Even I had to apply to be taken back to Finnish social securty system at the time. That was several years ago but I don't think the system has changed that much. It may have something to do with the person's country of origin and how long they are eligible for social security there after moving out etc...

matkailija · Post by **matkailija** » Thu May 19, 2005 4:40 am

thanks for all the help my spouse is Non-EU citizen and i could not find nothing on that kela page to confirm who can get or not from foreighners it just say roughly that families can get dont specify it in anyway

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Jake

khu · Post by **khu** » Thu May 19, 2005 5:20 am

Why don't you call them up, then? You said you are a Finnish citizen. I don't see why you'd ask a bunch of foreigners instead of the government itself.

matkailija · Post by **matkailija** » Thu May 19, 2005 5:30 am

well im more than 10 000miles away from that office i dont want to call for nothing as usually when call they dont know much more...i did call to "ulkoministerio" foreighn department UVI? and they didnt know more than i did ...so some of the Finnish offices im bit skeptic even im from Finland

Jake

RA · Post by RA » Thu May 19, 2005 7:59 am

Andulka wrote:I am a Finnish citizen, moved back to Finland after several years abroad, brought along a hubby who got his Kela card and right to all benefits immediately after receiving his residence permit (which took 1 day to acquire in Prague) and coming to Finland. Even I had to apply to be taken back to Finnish social securty system at the time. That was several years ago but I don't think the system has changed that much. It may have something to do with the person's country of origin and how long they are eligible for social security there after moving out etc...

True.... I had to apply to be taken back as well. And it took quite a bit of time because somebody had marked me down as an 'entinen henkilö'... so basically I didn't exist

until they literally brought me back to life again. Anyway, even if you're a Finnish citizen, it doesn't immediately give you or your next of kin the right to receive benefits. It also depends on how long you're actually staying here etc. Your best bet is to just get in contact with Kela, they tell you what applications and forms to fill in and then you wait for the decision. Normally before you apply for Kela benefits you should have registered in the city/municipality you're living in.

matkailija wrote:well im more than 10 000miles away from that office i dont want to call for nothing as usually when call they dont know much more...i did call to "ulkoministerio" foreighn department UVI? and they didnt know more than i did ...so some of the Finnish offices im bit skeptic even im from Finland

Jake

The only way you'll get your answer is by contacting the Kela offices, since it's their 'function' and the ulkoministeriö doesn't deal with social benefits of Finnish citizens or residents. Or contact the Finnish embassy in your country for instructions.

matkailija · Post by **matkailija** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:16 am

sorry i meant i called to UVI(Ulkoministerio) because of other business when i got married couple years before and my memory from that is jolly good they dont know much more what i did so it was like

OK... so who i call next...

then they said hmmm you could call embassy not sure if they know about this more...like i didnt be in contact with embassy before

Jake

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