Time off work to look after kid if partner sick.

irnbru · Post by **irnbru** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:21 pm

Is there any employment law regarding this. I.e. can you expect to have a paid day off if this situation occurs? My wife had to spend a day in hospital and as a consequence I had to take a day off to look after my kid but my work gave me an unpaid holiday. I'm just wondering if I could have had a paid day off.

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Upphew · Post by **Upphew** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:34 pm

irnbru wrote:Is there any employment law regarding this. I.e. can you expect to have a paid day off if this situation occurs? My wife had to spend a day in hospital and as a consequence I had to take a day off to look after my kid but my work gave me an unpaid holiday. I'm just wondering if I could have had a paid day off.

Yes there is law: Työsopimuslaki, chapter 4, 8 §: The employer is not obliged to pay the employee wages for family leave time described in this chapter.

irnbru · Post by **irnbru** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:36 pm

Upphew wrote:
irnbru wrote:Is there any employment law regarding this. I.e. can you expect to have a paid day off if this situation occurs? My wife had to spend a day in hospital and as a consequence I had to take a day off to look after my kid but my work gave me an unpaid holiday. I'm just wondering if I could have had a paid day off.
Yes there is law: Työsopimuslaki, chapter 4, 8 §: The employer is not obliged to pay the employee wages for family leave time described in this chapter.

Thanks so I got an unpaid holiday and that was correct then. OK. But can they refuse to give you this time off? What if its many days or even weeks?

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:11 pm

No offence to you personally irnbru, but I'm pleased to hear that extra paid leave isn't handed out to parents of sick children. Having seen the other side of the coin (people having to do unpaid overtime to cover the absent people), I think it's rather a good idea.

EP · Post by EP » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:25 pm

What if its many days or even weeks?

I think it is three days. After that you have to make some other arrangements.

FFCBOY · Post by **FFCBOY** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:13 pm

I get four paided days a year if off due to childrens sickness,, dont know what the normal is....

Rosamunda · Post by **Rosamunda** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:21 pm

Just for info...

A charity with an excellent reputation called the Mannerheim League, has trained babysitters to help in these kind of situations:

http://www.mll.fi/in_english/

OK, so most parents would rather have root canal surgery than leave their kids with a stranger, but this charity does have a great reputation and sometimes in an emergency we just have to make choices we would otherwise rather not have to make.

Mook · Post by **Mook** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:59 pm

but don't you get sick-pay from KELA?

In these situations nice companies give you your whole pay, but claim some back off KELA. Not so nice companies just let you get the KELA money.

CatNip · Post by **CatNip** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:31 am

Hi,

This is depended on the collective agreement your company is following. Contact the Hr is your company, they are able to help you out with this.

irnbru · Post by **irnbru** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:51 am

Karhunkoski wrote:No offence to you personally irnbru, but I'm pleased to hear that extra paid leave isn't handed out to parents of sick children.

Thats not what i'm asking here. I already get paid if I need to look after a sick child. No offence to you personally

but try reading my post first before spouting off.

irnbru · Post by **irnbru** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:19 am

penelope wrote:Just for info...

A charity with an excellent reputation called the Mannerheim League, has trained babysitters to help in these kind of situations:

http://www.mll.fi/in_english/

OK, so most parents would rather have root canal surgery than leave their kids with a stranger, but this charity does have a great reputation and sometimes in an emergency we just have to make choices we would otherwise rather not have to make.

Thanks for that. I hope its not something I need to use but it's good to know there is something like that there.

irnbru · Post by **irnbru** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:22 am

CatNip wrote:Hi,

This is depended on the collective agreement your company is following. Contact the Hr is your company, they are able to help you out with this.

Thanks I have a copy of the IT services sector collective agreement now this is what my company is following. I contacted HR and am waiting for their response.

Karhunkoski · Post by **Karhunkoski** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:51 pm

irnbru wrote:
Karhunkoski wrote:No offence to you personally irnbru, but I'm pleased to hear that extra paid leave isn't handed out to parents of sick children.
Thats not what i'm asking here. I already get paid if I need to look after a sick child. No offence to you personally but try reading my post first before spouting off.

Oh yes, I mis-read your post. Sorry.

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