The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by Hee » Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:47 pm

interleukin wrote:I find it strange that the OP has problems with distinguishing words in Finnish, and gives French as an example of a language where this is easy!
My thoughts exactly. French is not a good example of a language with clear spoken boundaries between words :shock: at least not in my opinion.



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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by Rob A. » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:55 pm

Jukka Aho wrote:
AldenG wrote:The region thing IS a bit perplexing. Some Finnish-origin film/program DVD's actually DO have a region code.
I guess the most straightforward way to deal with these things as a beginner is just to bite the bullet and buy the DVD you’re wanting to watch. If you then find out you can’t actually view it (due to a region restriction of some sort, or a PAL/NTSC compatibility issue, or whatever), solve that problem as a separate step. It is a lot easier to test out different things and setups when you actually have the disc in your possession...

Since North America gets lots of immigrants from all abroad the world, there are also specialist electronics stores catering for the expat market. They have expertise on these matters and can surely sell a workable (PAL/NTSC compatible, region-free, etc.) solution if someone doesn’t feel quite technically savvy enough to resolve the problem themselves.
I suppose this is the best advice for me...I can't even find the model number for my Toshiba unit.... :lol:...though it does have the outlet to accept an HDMI cable, so I guess that means it's a newer, "well-locked" product.... I don't mind paying an expert if they actually are giving good service....and there are lots of high-tech geeks around Vancouver who will give a person the "straight goods..."....In fact as I'm thinking about it, I'm remembering that one of my buddies has a brother who will know exactly what is possible... :D

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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by tuulen » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:20 am

Hee wrote:
interleukin wrote:I find it strange that the OP has problems with distinguishing words in Finnish, and gives French as an example of a language where this is easy!
My thoughts exactly. French is not a good example of a language with clear spoken boundaries between words :shock: at least not in my opinion.
I am not a French speaker but I do agree with you, in that what I see written in French looks NOTHING like what I hear when those same written words are spoken.

In that sense, Finnish is exactly the opposite, as what is heard completely matches what is written.

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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by Pursuivant » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:48 am

French ( and portugese) are written just bizzarre, just like you want "vettä" or "water" the french write "eau", but say "ö" or actually "löö", but thats grammar
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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by AldenG » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:12 am

Pursuivant wrote:French ( and portugese) are written just bizzarre, just like you want "vettä" or "water" the french write "eau", but say "ö" or actually "löö", but thats grammar
Eau is that how it wööks?
As he persisted, I was obliged to tootle him gently at first and then, seeing no improvement, to trumpet him vigorously with my horn.


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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by Rob A. » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:47 pm

kalmisto wrote:awful = awe-inspiring :wink: :
http://travelswithkathleen.blogspot.com ... guage.html
Interesting...:D

Of course, she doesn't realize that the "ä" and the "ö" are treated as separate letters in the Finnish orthography....and that, unlike the English "a" in, say, the words ,"fat" and "fate"...Finnish deals with long vowels by doubling them... And it takes no time at all to realize that many Finnish/Swedish place name signs are simply translations of each other....:D

It seems that for many English speakers....and I seem to one of those.... there is a certain charm to the Finnish language...which is hard to describe or articulate,...and probably this is not perceived by native Finnish speakers ....but it's there nevertheless... Maybe it's this "Elvish" thing... :wink: But, really, I don't know.

I also find a certain "charm" and "attractiveness" to Finnish culture in general, but, again, it's hard to articulate....and, again, probably lost on the natives, as...for good or bad...they've been "immersed" in the culture all their lives ... :D

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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by tuulen » Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:12 am

Rob A. wrote:...the "ä" and the "ö" are treated as separate letters in the Finnish orthography...
:lol:

My introduction to such "dotted" vowels was in German, where "ä" is the letter "a" but having an umlaut added above it.

And it took a while for me to get my head wrapped around the Finnish "ä" as simply being "ä" with no umlaut involved and not to be confused with any other letter!

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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by Bavarian » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:30 am

AldenG wrote:
Pursuivant wrote:French ( and portugese) are written just bizzarre, just like you want "vettä" or "water" the french write "eau", but say "ö" or actually "löö", but thats grammar
Eau is that how it wööks?
I've linked to this HS piece before, but it's always worth another read. :lol:

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Re: The 'I Hate Finnish' Thread

Post by Pursuivant » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:18 pm

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